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Our relationship with the pixel-fighter community
mayerDate: Wednesday, 2014-02-05, 8:29 PM | Message # 1
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You may have heard it already, that members of -=PFC=- banned players of this server and made various accusations against us
This thread has the purpose to show all actions of the pixel-fighter community which were/are aimed against the FHSW Europe Community

  • Charges of Nazism
    Most players of this community are banned on the pixel-fighter FH server for "Motivation - advertising of the National-Socialist server FHSW" (original statement from PFC banlist).Although these bans are not displayed anymore on the website, they are still in effect and members of the PFC community continue to refer to us as "Nazis".(If you had a pixel-fighter forum account , your personal information may be changed in a form to insult you. See here)While we can not condemn their banning methods because it's the right of the server owner to decide who is allowed to play on his server, we strongly oppose all allegations of us being "Nazis".The [FHSW]Europe community is a multi-national community which does not tolerate racism or similar discriminatory behaviour, therefore all imputations of us being supporters of nazism are baseless charges and are merely attempts to detroy our reputation.This already led to the end of cooperation between this community and the hslan gaming community due to lobbying of PFC via character assassination.


  • Pressure on Clans
    Styv Manns, a member of this community was threatened to follow in line of the [DPB]and quit playing on the FHSW Europe server or else he would be banned from pixel-fighter. He did not obey and was banned.When Optimus, member of xX*(D.I.E)*Xx was banned from pixel-fighter FH for playing on this server, several of his clanmates supported him. As response PFC banned the whole clan.


  • Attempts of direct Competition
    From december 2009 to november 2010 pixel-fighter hosted their own FHSW server with events on fridays (our old event day) which deliberately took place on the same time as ours.In the pixel-fighter forum were demonstrably dicussions how to surpass the playercount of FHSW Europe.Then officially of reasons of technical difficulties with the newer FHSW versions, the pixel-fighter FHSW server was shut down (It rather seems to be a change of tactics because overtaking the FHSW playerbase failed and was counterproductive in the sense of introducing new players to FHSW).

    Today the abbreviation 'FHSW' is erased from the pixel-fighter forum and its mention alone is a reason for ban.After the closure of the pfc FHSW server was a period of short runs of servers with different BF42 mods which was then abandoned and replaced with servers for different games (IL-2, CoD, MoH).Simultaneously they announced the making of a own FH 0.7 addon, called FHC (FH Commmunity addon) however they did not achieve much in the last 3 years and are probably just ripping features from FHSW.

    In February 2014 at the same time as Forgotten Honor hosts their first FHSW tournament "Blood and Iron" in cooperation with FHSW Europe, PFC responds by starting their own tournament set in the same theatre (Eastern Front)


From these aggressive actions one can only conclude that the leadership of the pixel-fighter community, in particular Grabbi, tries to have control over the whole FH1+addons playerbase and is especially infuriated that people who are banned by him can play on another popular server. His unsportmanslike behaviour as serveradmin also shows itself by reports of him using cheat-software.

Meanwhile the [FHSW]Europe community stands for fairplay and none of our admins ever cheated on the server and we never arbitrarily banned people. We also never attacked other gaming communities by lust for power.


 
SimoHayhaDate: Wednesday, 2014-02-05, 8:58 PM | Message # 2
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Well put mayer..



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DeathDate: Wednesday, 2014-02-05, 10:29 PM | Message # 3
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just leave grabbi and his goonies alone. its not worth it mate, nor is it worth bringing it up.

 
Korsakov829Date: Wednesday, 2014-02-05, 10:30 PM | Message # 4
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Personally I've never been a fan of PFC for reasons mentioned, but they more or less run the only FH 0.7 server so I'm going to hold back. In a way yes, it's believable that they do indeed try to control the player base, the only fix for that I can think of is the introduction of more popular servers but I don't see that happening any time soon.
 
mayerDate: Wednesday, 2014-02-05, 10:34 PM | Message # 5
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Quote Mr_J
WTF Mayer, why are you rubbing salt into the old wound?

This thread is a good opportunity to show the misbehaviour of -=PFC=-
also it is not "old", they are continuing with their policy
It is above all aimed at informing new players of the risks of punishment by the pixel-fighters for playing on FHSW Europe
Sth we can not prevent, and also to dispute the accusations (which has indeed ruined our reputation in the bf community, especially in germany)

Quote Korsakov829 ()
the only fix for that I can think of is the introduction of more popular servers but I don't see that happening any time soon.

We are still there and FHSW Europe is as popular as never, so Grabbi has clearly failed with his objective.


 
Mr_JDate: Wednesday, 2014-02-05, 11:01 PM | Message # 6
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Mayer, you have just deleted my post, which is exactly the same thing that PFC crew is used to do, isn't it?

Again, make love not war, otherwise this silliness will never be gone
 
mayerDate: Wednesday, 2014-02-05, 11:27 PM | Message # 7
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Quote Mr_J ()
Mayer, you have just deleted my post, which is exactly the same thing that PFC crew is used to do, isn't it?

No, PFC would have threatened you with ban for deviation from general line.
I deleted it because the blame on me for mentioniong the topic was unneeded as we need to clarify what is going on to new players who got involved in Grabbi's war.
This thread offers the information in a more orderly, complete and objective manner than the comments in the <pfc has banned me> threads.

Quote Mr_J ()
Again, make love not war, otherwise this silliness will never be gone

Ah yes? This community has in all its existence never attacked the playerbase of -=PFC=-, all aggressions came from their site.
This situation will probaby end only when one of the communities is defunct or Grabbi retires.


 
crazygameloverDate: Friday, 2014-02-07, 9:51 PM | Message # 8
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So...apparently I'm banned from the FH server too XD
 
LampoDate: Saturday, 2014-02-08, 10:06 AM | Message # 9
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(If you had a pixel-fighter forum account , your personal information may be changed in a form to insult you. See here)


ehi, I know that ass   rolleyes
I can add that grabbi hates me because I had a game server, some years ago, Optimus and Stefan played in and others FHSW players did the same. Grabbi won his battle against me and now he is' trying to do the same with us... but.... that's impossible.   up
So, dear grabbi, keep calm, that's life.


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bubuDate: Sunday, 2014-08-31, 10:40 AM | Message # 10
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Grabbi is a like a really bad joke. It is like someone says it over and over and it really gets worse and worse everytime. 
When troubles began back in time, me and Optimus were called to TS as clanleaders of D.I.E (which by that time still played on both servers) and had to listen to his c**p about his ideology and his theories about this and that, but wow - he managed to talk 30 minutes without breathing like some kind of zombie mutant or whatever not human (Or maybe he has gills, who knows). xD biggrin
BUT seriously said, his mind is totally f****d, with no exceptions. Just f****d. No other word can describe that.
After that there were some troubles with DIE players playing on both servers. PFC didn't like this so they banned the half of the clan. You know, you just can't tell players where they should to play. That's just not even possible or polite. And then we were kind of torn up between both servers and blah blah, old and bad stuff which I really am not happy that has happened. :/

Then, after a lot of time, it looked like some admins from PFC are against him and he is close to being kicked out of PFC team but then all was left down so nothing happened. Some guys have seen how crazy he is and have supported his kick/ban but I don't recall what was next. It was pretty messed up.

So anyway, the best thing to do (in my opinion) is just to ignore both, him and PFC staff for now. Let's just wait, observe and ignore them like intelligent beings. wink

(Excuse me for bad words, it is impossible to write about Grabbi without them rolleyes .)

Bubu
 
Santa-AnnaDate: Sunday, 2014-08-31, 12:14 PM | Message # 11
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Mentally ill person.
 
(HH)BenjaminDate: Sunday, 2014-08-31, 4:10 PM | Message # 12
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just leave grabbi and his goonies alone. its not worth it mate, nor is it worth bringing it up.
I'm sorry Death but I have to take Mayer's side on this thing. I do believe it's worth bringing up because if we don't we have nothing to justify why we dislike them, just in case any of this ever comes to light. Now is Grabbi ever going to apologize? Probably not, but if it should ever come up in a public forum/viewing area, I think it's very important that we have our facts straight so that we can tell PFC exactly what they had done, when they had done it, and why they had done it. Otherwise, it's just our two communities throwing words back at each other, it's very difficult for Grabbi to come up with an excuse when fighting against facts that he knows and we know are true. Just my opinion though, it's not gospel. smile


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Robert_von_EberhahnDate: Sunday, 2014-08-31, 6:03 PM | Message # 13
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U are right, but Grabbi will never apologize, just like any government NEVER would agree that they had done false flagg operations ... dry it´s the same stupid mind wacko

 
(HH)BenjaminDate: Sunday, 2014-08-31, 6:12 PM | Message # 14
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I agree
 
Stefan1990Date: Sunday, 2014-08-31, 6:56 PM | Message # 15
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buddydogDate: Monday, 2014-09-01, 1:16 PM | Message # 16
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Wow. Never had that experience with PFC. But I know crazy how some gaming communities can be in regards to abuse, false accusations, and racism (in my case I was the recipient of the racism). 
 
Hopefully after these years, they have moved on, maybe?
 
(HH)BenjaminDate: Monday, 2014-09-01, 3:46 PM | Message # 17
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I'm sorry but I really don't see the FHSW and the PFC communities ever making amends.
 
mardukDate: Monday, 2014-09-01, 6:19 PM | Message # 18
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Hey guys, why are you still talking about PFC?
We have won the fight against PFC a long time ago. They tried to destroy us and our playerbase years ago. And we are still here. There is nothing to talk about left.


Quid pro quo!
 
JiangZhongzhengDate: Monday, 2014-09-01, 7:58 PM | Message # 19
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I don't know really. Maybe so we can have more players in SW, or so that 0.7 isn't ruled by a megalomaniac.
 
MannsDate: Thursday, 2014-10-09, 1:09 AM | Message # 20
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Alter was wird hier geredet ? Wer hat mir gedroht ? Der einzige Grund warum ich solange gebannt war, war dass Volksgrenadier und General Lohse ein Problem mit mir hatten, weil ich früher noch sehr aufgeweckt jung und motiviert im Teamspeak war und immer online. Und darauf haben die Typen mich ständig geteamkillt, oder permanent mir Grananten und Rucksackladungen vor die Füße geworfen und das Team gewechselt (mindestens 50mal) und haben alles falsch rum bei Stefan 1990 erzählt. Wenn ich bei Reichsbahn 1945 beim Jagdtiger sagte, dass da jemand schreit, wurde ich sofort als Antisemit dargestellt und einer von euch, ich weiß nicht ob es eye, fischer oder mayer war, hat das dreißt unglaublich als WERBUNG benutzt, wie sie gegen NAZIS vorgehen!!!!. Stefan hat ihnen alles abgekauft und ich wurde gebannt, immer wieder. Einmal waren 2 Ausländer (Newbies) auf dem Server und haben ständig die Map gewechselt, weil sie als erster auf der geladenen Map waren, dann hat dieser irre, verwirrte Scheizer Hattler gleich in deutscher Sprache mich beschuldigt und ich wurde dafür gebannt, ICH mit meinem Rechner der übrigens immer am längsten im Lademenü hängt (warum sonst will ich immer einen Restart wenn ich auf eine Map komme) Marduk war da auch dabei und hat das alles für die Gestörten unterstützt. In der Gruppe auf einen zu gehen ist eben immer ziemlich einfach, dennoch hat Stefan eingesehen, dass ich Recht hatte, hat sich entschuldigt und ich bin wieder entbannt und spiele nach wie vor hier. Mit dem ganzen Grabbizeug hatte ich kaum was zu tun. Ich war halt einfach von Anfang an dabei. Ich trat DPB bei, wo ich auch Stefan kennenlernte. DPB musste sich von Pixxel Fighter regelrecht wegen jeden Müll unterdrücken lassen, weil die Server von denen kamen und als dieser Stefan1990 mit seinem Server kam und ihn mit FH für DPB unabhängig anbietete, hatten sie auf einmal nichts mehr zum drohen. Nebenbei klappte der DPB Clan auch überhaupt nicht, mein lauter Gedanke einen eigenen Clan zu machen setzte Stefan dann um, als die DPBler sich bei einem "TRAINING" auf FH El Alamein nur teamkillten.

So entstand das alles und der Krieg zwischen FHSW Server Stefan und PFC begann, http://www.bf-games.net/forum....ht-even

Das einzige mal, wo ich wirklich mal dabei war, war wie Stefan und Grabbi sich ziemlich stritten im PFC Ts und Ersterer schon mit Hausbesuch drohte biggrin Als Stefan dann ging fragte mich Grabbi beinhart ob ich nicht zu PFC kommen möchte. Als ich dies verneinte war mal lange Zeit nichts, ich kam mich nur erinnern, dass ich mal aus Neugier auf den PFC Server wollte, weil so viele Spieler drauf waren und da einfach stand: "gebannt".
Anscheinend, weil ich zu Stefans Leuten gehöre.

So das sind mal all meine Erfahrung mit PFC

Falls das mit meiner "Verbannung" oder "Verstummung" auf die Zeit 2013 - 2014 gemeint ist und nicht die 2009-2012, da war ich im Auslandsmilitärdienst, 12 Monate.

http://fhsw-europ.ucoz.de/forum/31-381-1
http://screenshot.xfire.com/s/105685003-4.jpg
http://fhsw-europ.ucoz.de/forum/22-82-1

Also bitte, entfernt meinen Namen da oben

danke

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Oh Lord, what is said here? Who threatened me? The only reason why I was banned while, was that Volksgrenadier and General Lohse had a problem with me because I once was a very bright young and motivated in Teamspeak and always online. And that the guys have me constantly team killed, or permanently thrown me explosives and backpack loads in front and changed the team (at least 50 times) and have told all on opposite to Stefan 1990. At the Jagdtiger at Reichsbahn in 1945 that someone cries, I was immediately presented as an anti-Semite ! One of you, I do not know if it is eye, fisherman or was mayer, was incredible bold using it as ADVERTISING, how they go against NAZIS !!!!. Stefan has believed them all and I was banned, again and again. Once were two foreigners (Newbies) on the server and have continually changed the map because they were the first on the loaded map, then this confused swizzerland guy Hattler wrote German language and accused me I was banned for it, I with my computer hangs in fact always the longest in the loading menu (why else would I always want a restart if I'm on a Map) Marduk was there too, and has all this support for the deranged. In the group to go on an's always pretty easy, but Stefan has realized that I was right, has apologized and I am unbanned again and play still here. With all Grabb stuff I had hardly anything to do. I had just come from the beginning. I joined DPB, where I met Stefan. DPB had to be suppressed by Pixxel Fighter literally for every garbage because the servers came from where and when he came with his Stefan1990 Server and independent offered him with FH for DPB, they had at one time nothing more to threaten. Incidentally the DPB communitiy worked not, Teamkills during training and so on, so I though loud to make our own clan, and Stefan converted it.

So that originated everything and began the war between server FHSW Stefan and PFC, http://www.bf-games.net/forum....ht-even

The only time where I was really at it was how Stefan and Grabbi fairly fought in PFC Ts and former home visit with already threatened biggrin When Stefan went asked me Grabbi seriously if I want to come to PFC. When I said no. Nothing happend for a long time, I only remember that I wanted out of curiosity on the PFC server because so many players were on it and there simply was "banned".
Apparently, because I belong to Stefan's people.

So the times are all my experience with PFC

If my "exile" or "dumbness" in the period 2013 - 2014 is meant and not from 2009 to 2012, when I was overseas military service, 12 months.

http://fhsw-europ.ucoz.de/forum/31-381-1
http://screenshot.xfire.com/s/105685003-4.jpg
http://fhsw-europ.ucoz.de/forum/22-82-1

So please, remove my name up there

http://www.bf-games.net/forum....ht-even


honor and duty

Private [DPB]Styv signed up for military service on ranked battlefields at 19:04:56 30|07|2008 in ForgottenHope 1


Message edited by Manns - Thursday, 2014-10-09, 1:34 AM
 
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